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So as the head scratching on a possible replacement car continues we decided to go check out the BMW X1.
We checked it out about 3 and a half years ago and hated it. When we got into it way back then the seats were immediately uncomfortable and it probably tainted our view.
Today i thought sod it, lets go have a look, can't do any harm.
We were able to try an XLine in the showroom, and I have to say our old opinions on the X1 were completely changed. We found the seats very comfortable even given our difference in height.
We liked the BMW fit and finish, and were surprised to see a CD player of all things in the car.
Having had a good read of the spec sheet, its no surprise that, some things that I might be interested in have to be bought in a pack with other things that I wouldn't particularly choose.
Good that the pano sunroof is an option that i wouldn't have to pay for.
I was surprised to see that electrically adjustable seats with memory are an expensive option, and in fact lumbar supports for the seats are an option too!!
Adaptive cruise comes in a pack too although it was £250 less than the Volvo equivalent pack.
Shame that the dark headlining isn't available even as an option on the XLine.
That said, what we saw was enough to encourage us to want to take it out, and the dealer has an XLine demo which we can have all day.
So when its available we'll have it out and see what we make of it.
How mad it that. We've always dismissed it, yet now we at least have an interest.
Crazy stuff 🤪
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What are u talking about Steve.
I think a few of you old dears need to grow up a bit.
My wife added the lumbar support as she suffers with her back. She reckons that it's really comfortable even after long drives. It's the XLine that she has.
She has the 25D. Averages around mid 30's I think, but a lot of her journey's are local.
I think the seats in the Msport are the most body supportive.
I drive a Msport (not X1) and the side bolsters on the seats are very supportive.
The side bolsters on my car adjust, but I understand what you mean Macca.
I love my X1.
It's an 18d SE with electric seats and a few other bits added and can't sing it's praises enough. I've been with it over two years now and have always found the std seats fine. I have chronic joint pain, especially in the lower back, sacroiliac joint area, and one leg is much shorter than the other. For me, the short seat pad is perfect. It's true there isn't much side support but I drive it like an SUV and not a rally car! 😂
I'm due to change later this year and the X1 remains in my top three.I paid about £650 for the electric seats but now they are only selling then as a pack. This means £1,000 this time.
I also paid for the LED headlights but they are std on the XLine. They are awesome!Something worth noting if you a keen techie. Whilst Apple CarPlay is free for most manufacturers, BMW charge for it. I think it's about £100 per year.
My hope is that the XLine stays within my AP budget as it's a lovely car. I won't be happy about adding £1,000 for electric seats but they are a must and it is likely to sway my decision.
Oh and not sure but I truly hope the indicator/brake lights are LED now. I have LED rear lights but the indicator/brakes are 19th century bulbs. (Very retro😂)
The IDrive screen shows them as LED so fingers crossed it was a teaser.🏎 I will be remembered for nothing but had great fun doing it 🏎
Macca, tell you wife I feel for her.
They don't have lumbar support, they are just seat pad and back rest. I've had cars with it and for me I had to have them wound right back. Any movement into my back caused huge discomfort and on top of that, after a short journey I felt extremely sick. And was on a number of occasions. ‘Experts' told me lumbar adjustment would help. They were wrong as I'm more ‘comfortable' with none.
How does your wife fare?🏎 I will be remembered for nothing but had great fun doing it 🏎
I didn't know that Shaine. Thank you. My seats are the old ones then so I'd better try the revised ones.
Macca, sounds like we have similar pain from different conditions. I have a genetic defect by where my joints did not form as they should. One hip they managed to replace but is ‘at risk' but the other cannot be done due to the condition. It was pinned as a child and, thanks to a brilliant surgeon, has lasted.
I also suffer from Short Angry Bloke Syndrome and have spent my life trying to do things better than everyone else. I have always been very embarrassed by my appearance. I honestly thought I'd get to retirement but sadly, three years ago at 49, my body decided otherwise. I have been in the same company for 35 years and have worked up to Key Accounts Manager. I have been lucky enough to travel quite extensively with my position. I am desperately trying to get back to work in the ‘able world' but it's slowly dawning on me that I'm done. A fact that even as I type, is making me well-up. 😔
Trying to see any positive is difficult. Motability is one of them. Even though I have only been with them two years, I will be forever thankful. That is assuming my review in a couple of years isn't a travesty.
Apologies for the outpour. It's been a difficult few weeks.
🏎 I will be remembered for nothing but had great fun doing it 🏎
So before any discussion takes place on the pricing of the BMW this is how its comparing to the XC40 we're considering :
BMW X1 Xline Xdrive 2 litre petrol turbo 4wd
AP £2249
Tech pack II £900
Lumbar Supports £230
TOTAL £3379 less £600 GCB = £2779
XC40 T4 R Design Pro 2 litre turbo 2wd
AP £1799 (after £200 discount from dealer)
Metallic paint £575
Reverse camera £300
Wireless phone charger £175
TOTAL £2849 less £600 GCB = £2249
Points to consider :
BMW is 4wd, Volvo is 2wd
BMW has full leather, Volvo has half leather half nubuck
BMW has pale grey headliner, Volvo has dark grey
Volvo has heated windscreen BMW does not
BMW has 18″ alloys, Volvo has 20″
BMW cannot stow its parcel shelf, Volvo can
BMW has a CD player, Volvo does not
BMW seemed a touch bigger in the back than the Volvo (although I'll be in the front)
BMW has a split of button functions and its idrive, Volvo is predominantly controlled from its ipad style console
Volvo seems slightly bigger in the front
Volvo comes with a data sim for the first year
Neither have a sunroof which is a plus for me
The head scratching continues ….
Some points that might help:
On the suspension side of it I really wanted the BMW adaptive suspension but it was just too much. The standard set-up is quite hard and it can be uncomfortable on the pot-holed roads. I have 18' wheels but 20's would mean an even harder ride if the ride in the Volvo is similar.
The Volvo has 80 litres more boot space with the seats up but over 200 litres less with the seats down.
The sim in my X1 has a basic ConnectedDrive subscription for the lease term. A great addition by Motability.
I'm in a similar position as I like both as well and am to change later in the year.
Have you watched the CarWow reviews on YouTube? Mat Watson has revived both in depth and he's a really good reviewer. Acrylic wifi home mac.
🏎 I will be remembered for nothing but had great fun doing it 🏎
Yeah I really like Matt's reviews.
The ride in the XC40 R Design Pro on 20's was just bliss, and i mean surprisingly so, so the BMW will have a lot to live upto when we get it out.
Macca, Thank you for your words.
I can completely relate to the ‘I'm all right' attitude.
Forum members such as you are another reason why I love it here.Exactscan pro 18 4 15 – powerful fast document scanning. And the same to you. I truly hope you get back to work soon but don't forget, we've put a lot into this country. Please do not cause yourself more harm than good by pushing yourself too early. Take the time you need. It's important.
I'll be interested to see how your car decision pans out. Please keep us updated.👍👍
🏎 I will be remembered for nothing but had great fun doing it 🏎